She is the first artist since the Beatles to spend six or more weeks at number one in the United States with three consecutive albums (at the time of writing, 1989 is into its 11th week at the top).
Before that, when she woke up, she was immediately gripped with anxiety about something she said last night (even though it was only using the word ‘interjection’ when she meant ‘injection’).
‘I worry about everything all the time,’ she says with a grin.
It is to me, but a lot of artists have already given up on that.
I have friends who just think it’s not attainable, which I feel is a very defeatist way to look at life.’ And defeatism is not the Swift way.
Swift has ordered in coffee, apologising for the lack of tea (‘You’re British! ’) and peppers conversation with first-name references to her famous friends.
Single after a string of high-profile relationships with men such as Harry Styles, Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Lautner, she has recruited a ‘squad’ of high-achieving close girlfriends, and spends what little downtime she gets baking with the supermodel Karlie Kloss, strolling around New York with the Girls actress and writer Lena Dunham or, as her recent Instagram posts indicate, whale-watching in Hawaii with the indie band Haim.
‘We could do our entire interview me telling you how many things I’ve worried about since breakfast.
“The Neuroses of Taylor Swift” is probably going to be the article headline.’ Most pop stars of Swift’s stature pay other people to worry about these things.
‘For the last two albums I’d sold one million copies in a week, and I knew people were waiting to see me not hit that number and then diagnose the music industry as dying or dead.